On this episode, I chatted with Hale about the massive leap of faith I took—leaving my corporate finance grind to answer an abrupt calling as a medium. In my book, Not Your Mother’s Mystic, I walk through my wild spiritual awakening, from internal struggle and self-doubt to diving headfirst into the unexplainable and trusting my intuition.

We talk ancestral healing, radical kindness as a spiritual flex, and how my relationship with God and Christianity cracked open into something far more expansive.

It’s tender. It’s fiery. It’s a reminder that you’re not alone on this cosmic rollercoaster—and that sometimes the mundanity of house chores can lead to the deepest transformation.